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Video games providers must treat consumers fairly.
Under EU consumer law consumers must be informed about the duration and conditions of a video game’s lifespan.
If the supply is stopped earlier than the contract states, players should be reimbursed.
We will work with consumer authorities and organisations to raise awareness about these rights and their active application.
How much did they pay / spend on you at the invite only party that Ubisoft gave you? It must be nice to not have morals or soul and sleep calmly at night with all that money.
Just remember every chip you take at society is one step closer to nights that might not be as peaceful. It's not about the videogames, but the blatant corruption. For the sake of social peace, hopefully one of you will read this and consider it. I would rather not see strife from civil unrest break the EU
@EUCommission folks, email your MEP and ask them to support an amendment to the Digital Fairness Act https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/home
Disappointed but maybe MEP do better...
@EUCommission They way you brush this of and do not even comment on several issues mentioned in the ECI like cultural preservation of video game is a sad day for democracy in the EU.
Allow me to make you aware of a (European) company that made preservation of video games their business. I suggest you have a chat with them about the economical aspects. https://www.gog.com/
@EUCommission
We need more partions. One in each country. @StopKillingGames
For everyone - you have the right to send a request towards your commissioner and the VPN hater (after there was a public outcry she never wanted to ban it ....) and people ignorer @HennaVirkkunen
Be annoying. Make those lazy **** work, when not for us then against us. But work they shall
@EUCommission What an utterly disappointing and pathetic non-response.
A clear signal that the Commission is corrupt, incompetent, or simply indifferent to the voices of us European Citizens. Perhaps all of the above? None of which paint a bright, inspiring, or optimistic future for the Union and its direction under your administration (or lack thereof).
At least we can still rely on the Parliament to represent the European Citizens that you have failed spectacularly.
Disgraceful.
@EUCommission Don't do this. You need to answer citizen initiatives addressing their core concerns, this is whitewashing
@EUCommission
Several European consumers spoke up, and the european commission didn't care.
You should be doing your job instead of running away from it and ignoring the problem. If I buy a game, I should have access to the game I bought. Nobody is going to come to my house to take away the books or CDs i have, after I've bought them, or at the very least guarantee a refund.
That should be in the law, not these bogus measures. I either have rights or I don't have rights as a consumer.
@EUCommission it's a start. Better than nothing I suppose...
@EUCommission Don't just inform and reimburse. Prevent it. If I buy a book, it's not OK for the publisher to take it away from me and pay me a few euros.
@EUCommission This is NOT enough and is NOT what more than 1.3 million Europeans signed to request. It is your obligation to do better! #StopKillingGames
@EUCommission
Lol, you really do think we’re all stupid, don’t you? Making a decision that goes completely against the interests of more than 1.3 million citizens, but then pretending you’ve achieved something great.
We’ll see what Parliament makes of it – it’s a disgrace for the Commission - again.
@EUCommission this is absolutely nonsense!!!
This does NOTHING to protect consumers! Stop it with this stupid #propaganda
None of this hold companies accountable and this shits on the efforts of the #stopkillinggames movement that actually protects CONSUMERS!
You know, the consumers you are lying about protecting with this nonsense law.
None of this is an end of life solution to games being killed nor gives consumers more rights!!
This empowers corporations!!
@EUCommission You betrayed us once again. What a surprise...
Does anyone have the names of the politicians who made this decision?
@EUCommission the least we expected from the EU. Now abolish stupid passport scan laws next. Hands off. My hardware.
@EUCommission Shove off. I am strongly in favor of stop killing games, you didn't even properly listen to the arguments that were presented to the point you guys had to be informed **multiple times** that the entire initiative was never about indefinite support. It was about the games provider **once** providing a runnable solution, after which point the rest can be handled via environment emulation or the like from others to keep it running indefinitely.
You did absolutely nothing here.
@EUCommission This response fails to address the core concerns of video game consumers.
Intellectual property never affected ownership, Refunds do not address the problem, Fragmentation prevents consumer action.
Please issue a revised response.
@EUCommission what about preservation?
@EUCommission Oh come on... If the commission already bends over for video game companies how can we possibly expect you to tackle bigger issues.
This is a shit move and you know it
Congratulations! You've just spat in the face of 1.3million people who put their support behind this initiative.
You not only failed to understand what was being asked, you actively gave the worse offenders a way to avoid responsibility.
Good job!
It's impressive how many times you were told this and you still failed to listen.
@EUCommission
...and what about industry that switches off devices' access to perfectly working features?
So, a whole bunch of nothing... Thanks for, yet again, bowing to your Lobbying Masters.
> The Commission considers that at this stage it cannot propose a legal obligation to keep video games playable after they stop being provided commercially.
Cowards you are
@EUCommission I'm going to reasonably assume that the kinds of games here are not packageable for discrete sale (on disc, for example), because they require resources exceeding any present convenient (and INEXPENSIVE) storage media.
Essentially, players buy access to the servers the games run on, because the alternative would be to build and run their own servers and pay for the costly media to carry the necessary game packages.
If that's so, then you must realistic about all this.
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@EUCommission This is an excellent first step! Awareness is key. Let consumers know exactly for how long games are going to be supported. Software houses must be progressively held accountable for the products they make and the services they provide.
@EUCommission The video games will jusr have a box that in order to play said video game you waive your right to reimbursed making said law completly usless
The same way steam and epic already make you wave the 30 day reimbursment by playing 2 hours...
@EUCommission this seems like a extremely watered down version of what #StopKillingGames tries to achieve.
Its a simple Right to Own campaign. If a product (videogame or otherwise) says 'Buy' or 'Purchase' I expect to OWN it. Not rent, not lease, not borrow. And no, I don't want to buy a license, I want to buy the product. The license is just a loophole to keep ownership out of the hands of consumers.
@EUCommission even this will be loopholed. some game devs will agree to an intentionally low level and then extend it for individual games as necessary.
gamers will only be given hope, without any factual safeguards.
@EUCommission Disappointing but better than nothing I guess.
@EUCommission Wow, so basically, what you "achieved" is that publishers can put a standard disclaimer like "you cannot assume that this online game will work for longer than 14 days after purchase date" in the fine print, and they are off the hook. Pathetic. #stopKillingGames
@EUCommission Wow, so basically, what you "achieved" is that publishers can put a standard disclaimer like "you cannot assume that this online game will work for longer than 14 days after purchase data" in the fine print, and they are off the hook. Pathetic. #stopKillingGames
Please also focus on the digital preservation part for getting archival copies into national archives and libraries..
Video games are both a form of art as well as a piece of media that has shaped generations. And a bunch of the games that left huge impressions on them have (almost completely) vanished.
@EUCommission Still prove that EU is corrupted to the core by big company, absolute traitor over their oath to protect their citizen.
@EUCommission "we will not force it" thanks for nothing and yet again taking the side of big corporation over your citizen.
@EUCommission Absolute fumble. What a disastrous sign for consumers that tried to be heard.
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